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Episodes from Mecca and Jerusalem

In the intro episode, the team behind the podcast project "Mecca and Jerusalem" introduces themselves personally and talks about what they associate with the two cities of Mecca and Jerusalem. They also talk about their personal hopes and goals for the podcast. Each episode features Beyza Arslan, Johannes Becke, Dana Daymand and Frederek Musall at the microphone.

The first episode focuses on individual insights into Jewish-Israeli and Muslim-Palestinian food culture and identity. We were able to talk to Dr. Yahil Zaban (Tel Aviv University), Dr. Zeina Barakat (University of Flensburg) and Muhammed Taha (Heidelberg) about their personal experiences. Through various anecdotes and personal insights from the interview partners, we will see, among other things, how different food cultures can be experienced and lived in the same region and what we do when we miss the dishes we are familiar with. So if you want to know why Yahil Zaban had four grandmothers and how this shaped his eating habits, you should definitely listen in.

In the second episode, we look at the broad spectrum of the topic of "kosher and halal" from both a religious and a real-life perspective. What do kosher and halal actually mean as terms? How strictly do Muslims and Jews adhere to them? Is it possible to eat kosher or halal food in Germany?

Together with Shaul Friberg (university rabbi at the Heidelberg University of Jewish Studies), Bilal Erkin (Islamic scholar and computer scientist), Ulrike Zierl (head of the canteen at the Heidelberg University of Jewish Studies), Ibrahim Ilik (owner of the Wefa restaurant in Mannheim) and Dr. Viktor Golinets (Professor of Jewish Studies at the Heidelberg University of Jewish Studies). Viktor Golinets (Professor of Hebrew Linguistics) will talk about what restaurants look for in order to guarantee halal or kosher food, what standards exist and what exactly these terms refer to in the everyday lives of Muslims and Jews. If you want to know why Muslim people also shop in kosher butchers, you should definitely listen to episode 2

In the third episode, we look at the most important languages for Jewish-Muslim relations: Arabic, Hebrew, Turkish/Ottoman and Persian. How do these languages relate to each other and what do they have to do with Jewish and Muslim people? How are these languages taught at university - and what challenges are there? Our interview partners on this topic this time are Viktor Golinets (Professor of Hebrew Linguistics, Heidelberg University of Jewish Studies), Kevin Trompelt (Lecturer in Hebrew Language, Heidelberg University of Jewish Studies), Ronny Vollandt (Professor of Jewish Studies, Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München), Henning Sievert (Professor of Islamic Studies, Heidelberg University) and Werner Arnold (Professor Emeritus of Semitic Studies, Heidelberg University). Let's talk not only about the interfaces between these four languages, but also about how they are taught in Heidelberg today. So if you're wondering where best to learn Hebrew or Arabic and what exactly distinguishes Ottoman from Turkish, listen to episode 3!

This episode is about perhaps the most important languages for Jewish and Muslim life, whether in Europe or the Middle East: Arabic and Hebrew. Our focus this time is on Jewish and Muslim life in Germany. Although both groups are ethnically, culturally and linguistically very diverse, Arabic and Hebrew play a major role in religious and cultural life. Together with Esnaf Begic (former imam and lecturer in Islamic theology, University of Osnabrück), Janosz Pawelczyk-Kissin (rabbi of the Jewish religious community in Heidelberg/the Rhine-Neckar district, religious education teacher and school representative of the Israelite religious community in Baden), Noga Hartmann (principal, Lichtigfeldschule Frankfurt a.M.) and Ulvi Karagedik (Lecturer in Islamic Theology and Religious Education, Karlsruhe University of Education) will answer questions such as: What languages are used in mosques and synagogues and what is their function? Why do Jewish and Muslim children and young people learn Hebrew and Arabic if they are rarely used in everyday life? How and where are these languages taught in the first place? Answers to these and many other questions can be found in episode 4, so be sure to listen in!

In this special episode, we take a virtual journey to three countries: Germany, Israel, and the United States. What initiatives, organizations, and projects already exist in the field of Muslim-Jewish relations and what can we learn from other countries? Together with our seven extraordinary interview partners, we give you an overview of the topics that are important for Muslim-Jewish relations. Our interview partners are Arik Rudnitzky (Project Manager, Konrad Adenauer Program for Jewish-Arab Cooperation, Tel Aviv University), Avi Shilon (Professor for Political Science, New York University / Tel Aviv University), Mohammad Darawshe (Director, Planning, Equality & Shared Society, Givat Haviva Center), Ari Gordon (Director, U. S. Muslim-Jewish Relations at the American Jewish Committee), Mehnaz Afridi (Director, Holocaust, Genocide, and Interfaith Education Center, Manhattan College), Yasemin Soylu (Co-Organizer, Muslim-Jewish Culture Days Heidelberg) and Ilya Sichrovsky (Founder, Muslim-Jewish Conference).

Why do Hebrew-speaking teachers in Israel teach at Arabic-speaking schools and vice versa? How does a conference organized by volunteers manage to bring together hundreds of Muslims and Jews, and what impact did the US election year have on Muslim-Jewish relations in the US? Answers to these questions and much more can be found in episode 5, so be sure to listen in!

This podcast episode was produced as part of the Sylke Temple Fellowship Program of the German-Israeli Future Forum Foundation. For more information on the Fellowship, click here:

https://www.dizf.de/english/fellowships/sylke-tempel-fellowship/usa/usa.html

This episode is about the Golden Ages of Jewish-Muslim relations, certain periods that are seen in hindsight as a symbol of religious coexistence. We are not only looking at "Al-Andalus" (the Muslim Middle Ages in Spain), but also regions such as Iraq or the Balkans, which may not be the first places that come to mind.

Was there really a heyday of Jewish-Muslim relations in different regions and time periods? How can we evaluate this period by today's standards - and who promotes a culture of remembrance of these golden ages?

We discussed these questions with Frederek Musall, who is not only one of our project leaders but also Professor of Jewish Philosophy and Intellectual History at the Heidelberg University of Jewish Studies, with Armina Omerika, Junior Professor of the History of Ideas in Islam at the University of Frankfurt, with Johannes Zimmermann, Lecturer in Islamic Studies at the University of Heidelberg and with Aline Schläpfer, Professor of Middle Eastern Studies at the University of Basel.

Anyone who wants to take a critical look at the so-called Golden Ages in Muslim Spain, the Balkans, the Ottoman Empire and Iraq should not miss this episode!

In this episode, we look at the Jewish-Muslim connections in the history of philosophy. Some well-known philosophers who frequently appear in this context are, for example, the Andalusian-Jewish thinker Moses Maimonides (known in Hebrew as Moshe ben Maimon, usually abbreviated as Rambam) or his Muslim contemporary Averroes or, in Arabic, Ibn Ruschd, who also came from Al-Andalus.

In which places outside of al-Andalus was there philosophical exchange across religious boundaries? How was the relationship between religion and philosophy understood here - and how did Jewish and Muslim thinkers learn from each other?

In this episode, we talk about how Jewish and Muslim philosophers of the Middle Ages pondered the same questions, not least about the compatibility of divine revelation and philosophy (and in this case that means ancient Greek philosophy). We discussed this topic with Milad Karimi (Professor of Islamic Metaphysics and Islamic Philosophy and Mysticism at the University of Münster), Sarah Stroumsa (Professor Emeritus of Arabic Studies at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem), Georges Tamer (Professor of Islamic Studies at the University of Nuremberg) and Frederek Musall (Professor of Jewish Philosophy and Intellectual History at the Heidelberg University of Jewish Studies).

So if you want to find out more about the exchange between Jewish and Muslim philosophers, you shouldn't miss this episode! It is well worth it!

This episode is a political one, as it deals with a highly charged topic: Arab-Israeli relations. In recent months, the Middle East conflict has been in the headlines for weeks due to the escalation between Israel and Hamas. On the other hand, peace agreements were concluded last year between the United Arab Emirates and Israel, among others, the so-called Abraham Accords. Together with experts from Israel, Palestine and the Arab world, we therefore ask ourselves in this episode: What is the state of Arab-Israeli relations? Does the Israeli-Emirati rapprochement point to a fundamental change - or is it all just symbolic politics? What does the concept of "normalization" mean for Arab-Israeli relations - and how does all this relate to Jewish-Muslim relations?

Elyazia Al-Hosani (head of the junior research team at the Emirati think tank TRENDS), Gil Murciano (director of the Israeli think tank MITVIM), Assaf David (director of the research area "Israel in the Middle East" at the Van Leer Jerusalem Institute) will have their say, Sana Knaneh (expert at the Israeli think tank MITVIM), Menna Abukhadra (visiting professor at the Center for Israel Studies at the University of Munich) and Marc Sievers (Director, American Jewish Committee Abu Dhabi).

Anyone who wants to get a comprehensive and critical picture of the present and future of Arab-Israeli relations should not miss this episode!

In this episode on Jewish and Muslim images of women, we will try to move away from clichés about "the Jewish woman" or "the Muslim woman" per se. When it comes to images of women, the Jewish and Muslim communities are often used as a projection surface. On the one hand, both Jewish Orthodox and Muslim women often cover their hair - and thus become a classic symbol of lack of freedom and oppression from the perspective of Western feminism. On the other hand, Jewish and Muslim women - ultimately in the tradition of European Orientalism - are often exoticized or eroticized: This tradition ranges from the harem fantasies of the 19th century to all kinds of belly-dancing kitsch and the Western fascination with female Israeli soldiers.

In the synagogue and the mosque, the sexes are separated; both orthodox Judaism and Islam have almost exclusively men in religious leadership positions. Nevertheless, there were pioneers and women's movements early on who wanted to change this status quo. Today, many female academics and activists are also concerned with the feminist interpretation of religious texts and traditions. Together with Dina El-Omari (lecturer at the Center for Islamic Theology at the Westfälische Wilhelms-Universität Münster), Hannah Tzuberi (PhD in Judaism and postdoctoral researcher at the Institute for Islamic Studies at the Freie Universität Berlin), Ali Ghandour (research assistant at the Center for Islamic Theology at the University of Münster), Sharon Adler (journalist and photographer, founder of the women's online magazine Aviva Berlin), Julie Grimmeisen
(Consulate General of Israel, PhD on Jewish-Israeli images of women and gender) talk about feminist Koranic exegesis, the role of women in halacha and gender perceptions in Israeli society.

Anyone interested in Jewish and Muslim images of women beyond the established clichés should not miss this episode!

״מכה וירושלים״ הינו פודקאסט אקדמי של המרכז למדעי היהדות בהיידלברג. הפקת הפודקאסט לא הייתה מתאפשרת ללא התמיכה הנדיבה של ״קרן פוולסוואגן״ ו״קרן זיכרון, אחריות עתיד״. בפרקים השונים של ״מכה וירושלים״ אנו מתעסקים בעבר, בהוווה ובעתיד של היחסים בין יהודים ומוסלמים, נושא שיעמוד כמובן גם במרכזו של פרק מיוחד זה בעברית. בפרק אנו נדון בנושאים הב

תחילה נדבר על נקודות השקה וקווי דמיון בין יהודים ומוסלמים, כמו לדוגמא הקשרים הלשוניים בין הערבית והעברית או הדמיון בין המטבח היהודי-ישראלי והערבי- פלסטיני. בחלק השני נדבר על קונפליקטים ואתגרים, במיוחד לאור היחסים בין יהודים ומוסלמים בישראל. בחלק השלישי נסיט את המבט מן ההוווה אל העבר ונתבונן בהיסטוריה של החיים המשותפים של יהודים ומוסלמים תוך התמקדות בתקופות שונות המתוארות כתקופות ״תור זהב״. לסיום, נדבר בפרק הרביעי על העתיד המשותף ועל השינוי האיטי ביחסים הערביים-ישראליים

:האורחים והאורחות שלנו היום הם/הן

ד״ר יחיל צבן (אוניברסיטת תל-אביב), ד״ר זיינה באראקת (אוניברסיטת פלנסבורג), אסנף בגיץ ( אימאם לשעבר ומרצה לתיאולוגיה אסלאמית, אוניברסיטת אוסנברוק), יאנוש פאוולצקי-קיסין (הרב הראשי של הקהילה היהודית בהיידלברג), אריק רודניצקי (ראש התוכנית ע״ש קונרד אדנאואר לשיתוף פעולה יהודי-ערבי, אוניברסיטת תל-אביב),מוחמד דאראוושה (מנהל המרכז הערבי-יהודי לשלום, גבעת-חביבה) יוהנס צימרמן (פרופסור למדעי האסלאם, אוניברסיטת היידלברג) אלינה שלפר (פרופסורית ללימודי המזרח-התיכון, אוניברסיטת בזל) אסף דוד (ראש תחום מחקר ״ישראל במזרח-התיכון״ במכון ון-ליר, ירושלים) זאנה קנאנה (חוקרת במכון מיתוווים הישראלי) מאנה אבוחאדרה (מרצה אורחת במחלקה ללימודי-ישראל, אוניברסיטת מינכן), מארק סיוורס (ראש הוועד היהודי אמריקאי באבו-דאבי)

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"Mecca and Jerusalem" is a science podcast at the Heidelberg School of Jewish Studies, which is supported by the Volkswagen Foundation and the Foundation "Remembrance, Responsibility and Future". We deal with the past, present and future of Jewish-Muslim relations - of course also in this special Hebrew episode.

Our discussion partners are: Dr. Yahil Zaban (Lecturer, Tel Aviv University), Dr. Zeina Barakat (Research Associate, University of Flensburg), Esnaf Begic (former Imam and Lecturer for Islam) and Dr. Zeina Barakat (Research Associate, University of Flensburg). Imam and Lecturer in Islamic Theology, University of Osnabrück), Janosz Pawelczyk-Kissin (Rabbi of the Jewish Community of Heidelberg/the Rhine-Neckar District, Religious Education Teacher and School Representative of the Israelite Religious Community of Baden), Arik Rudnitzky (Project Manager Konrad Adenauer Program for Jewish-Arab Cooperation, Tel Aviv University), Mohammad Darawshe (Director, Planning, Equality & Shared Society, Givat Haviva), Johannes Zimmermann (Lecturer in Islamic Studies at the University of Heidelberg), Aline Schläpfer (Professor of Middle Eastern Studies at the University of Basel)l, Assaf David (Director of the "Israel in the Middle East" research area at the Van Leer Jerusalem Institute), Sana Knaneh (expert at the Israeli think tank MITVIM), Menna Abukhadra (Visiting Professor at the Center for Israel Studies at the University of Munich) and Marc Sievers (Director, American Jewish Committee Abu Dhabi).

If you want to get a comprehensive overview of Jewish-Muslim relations, you should not miss this episode!

مكة والقدس هو بودكاست علمي للمعهد الأعلى للدراسات اليهودية في
هايدلبرغ، مدعوم من منحة فولكسفاغن ومنحة " الذاكرة، مسؤولية
ومستقبل". نحن نعمل على دراسة ماضي، حاضر ومستقبل العلاقات اليهودية
الإسلامية، بلا شك أيضا في هذه الحلقة باللغة العربية. وهذه هي
مواضيعنا لهذه الحلقة:

في البداية سنتحدث عن الأشياء المشتركة اليهودية الإسلامية كالتشابه
بين المطبخ اليهودي الإسرائيلي والمطبخ العربي الفلسطيني أو التشابه
بين اللغتين العربية والعبرية. نريد فيما يليه التطرق الى التحديات
والنزاعات بين الحضارتين، نخص بالذكر العلاقات اليهودية الإسلامية
في إسرائيل. ثالثا سنلقي نظرة على الماضي، لبحث تاريخ التعايش
اليهودي الإسلامي، بشكل محوري سنركز على عصور مختلفة، تلك الملقبة
بالفترة الذهبية. في النهاية سنتحدث رابعا عن المستقبل المشترك،
خاصة عن التحول البطيء في العلاقات العربية الإسرائيلية.

محدثاتنا ومحدثينا هم: د. يائيل زابان )أستاذ بجامعة تل أبيب(، د.
زينة بركات )باحثة علمية بجامعة فلينسبورغ(، إسناف بيغيش )إمام سابق
و أستاذ في الفقه الإسلامي بجامعة أوسنابروك(، يوناس بافلشك كيسين
)حاخام لدى الجمعية اليهودية في هايدلبرغ ومنطقة الراين نيكار،
أستاذ دين و مسؤول مدرسي لللطائفة الإسرائيلية في بادن(، آريك
رودينتسكي )مدير تنفقيذي في برنامج كونراد أديناور لللعمل المشتركر
اليهودي العربي بجامعة تل أبيب(، محمد دراوشة )مدير و مخطط لبرنامج
المساواة و المجتمع المشترك جيفات حفيفا(، يوهانس زيمرمان )أستاذ في
العلوم الإسلامية بجامعة هايدلبرغ(، ألينا شليبفر )بروفيسورة في
دراسات الشرق الأوسط في جامعة بازل(، آساف دافيد )مدير في برنامج
الأبحاث "إسرائيل في الشرق الأوسط" في معهد فان لير القدس(، سناء
كنانة )خبيرة في معهد ميتفيم الإسرائيلي للبحث العلمي(، منة أبوخضرة
)بروفيسورة زائرة لدى مركز الدراسات الإسرائيلية بجامعة ميونخ( و
مارك سيفرس )مدير في المجتمع اليهودي الأمريكي بأبوظبي

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"Mecca and Jerusalem" is a science podcast at the Heidelberg School of Jewish Studies, which is supported by the Volkswagen Foundation and the Foundation "Remembrance, Responsibility and Future". We deal with the past, present and future of Jewish-Muslim relations - of course also in this special Hebrew episode.

Our discussion partners are: Dr. Yahil Zaban (Lecturer, Tel Aviv University), Dr. Zeina Barakat (Research Associate, University of Flensburg), Esnaf Begic (former Imam and Lecturer for Islam) and Dr. Zeina Barakat (Research Associate, University of Flensburg). Imam and Lecturer in Islamic Theology, University of Osnabrück), Janosz Pawelczyk-Kissin (Rabbi of the Jewish Community of Heidelberg/the Rhine-Neckar District, Religious Education Teacher and School Representative of the Israelite Religious Community of Baden), Arik Rudnitzky (Project Manager Konrad Adenauer Program for Jewish-Arab Cooperation, Tel Aviv University), Mohammad Darawshe (Director, Planning, Equality & Shared Society, Givat Haviva), Johannes Zimmermann (Lecturer in Islamic Studies at the University of Heidelberg), Aline Schläpfer (Professor of Middle Eastern Studies at the University of Basel)l, Assaf David (Director of the "Israel in the Middle East" research area at the Van Leer Jerusalem Institute), Sana Knaneh (expert at the Israeli think tank MITVIM), Menna Abukhadra (Visiting Professor at the Center for Israel Studies at the University of Munich) and Marc Sievers (Director, American Jewish Committee Abu Dhabi).

If you want to get a comprehensive overview of Jewish-Muslim relations, you should not miss this episode!

"Mekke ve Kudüs", "Anma, Sorumluluk ve Gelecek" Vakfı (Foundation
EVZ) tarafından desteklenen ve Heidelberg Yahudi Bilimleri
Araştırma Merkezinde (Heidelberg University of Jewish Studies)
yayınlanan bir podcast. Yahudi-Müslüman ilişkilerinin tarihi,
bugünü ve geleceği ile ilgileniyoruz- elbette bu Türkçe özel
bölümde de bu konuları ele alacağız.

Bu bölümde bahsi geçen uzmanlarımız: Dr. Yahil Zaban (Doçent, Tel
Aviv Üniversitesi), Dr. Zeina Barakat (Araştırma görevlisi,
Flensburg Üniversitesi), Esnaf Begiç (Eski imam ve öğretim
görevlisi, Osnabrück Üniversitesi, İlahiyat Fakültesi), Janosz
Pawelczyk-Kissin (Haham, Heidelberg Yahudi cemaati) Arik
Rudnitzky (Proje yöneticisi, Tel Aviv Üniversitesi Konrad
Adenauer Yahudi-Arap İşbirliği Programı), Mohammad Darawshe
(Direktör, Givat Haviva), Johannes Zimmermann (Eski Doçent,
Heidelberg Üniversitesi, İslam bilimleri), Aline Schläpfer
(Ortadoğu Çalışmaları Profesörü, Basel Üniversitesi), Assaf David
(Director, Van Leer Kudüs Enstitüsü "Orta Doğu'da İsrail"
Araştırma Departmanı), Sana Knaneh (Araştırmacı, Mitvim, İsrail
düşünce kuruluşu), Menna Abukhadra (Misafir profesör, İsrail
Çalışmaları fakültesi, Münih Üniversitesi) ve Marc Sievers
(Direktör, Amerikan Yahudi Komitesi, AJC Abu Dabi).

Yahudi-Müslüman ilişkileri hakkında daha kapsamlı bilgi edinmek
istiyorsanız bu bölümü kaçırmamalısınız!

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"Mecca and Jerusalem" is a science podcast at the
Heidelberg School of Jewish Studies, which is supported by the
Volkswagen Foundation and the Foundation "Remembrance, Responsibility
and Future" Foundation. We deal with the
The past, present and future of Jewish-Muslim relations
Relations - of course also in this special Hebrew
Special episode.

Our discussion partners are: Dr. Yahil
Zaban (Lecturer, Tel Aviv University), Dr. Zeina Barakat
(Research Associate, University of Flensburg), Esnaf
Begic (former imam and lecturer in Islamic theology,
University of Osnabrück), Janosz Pawelczyk-Kissin (Rabbi of the
jewish community of Heidelberg/the Rhine-Neckar district,
Religious education teacher and school representative of the
Religious Community Baden), Arik Rudnitzky (Project Manager of the
Konrad Adenauer Program for Jewish-Arab Cooperation,
Tel Aviv University), Mohammad Darawshe (Director, Planning,
Equality & Shared Society, Givat Haviva), Johannes Zimmermann
(Lecturer in Islamic Studies at the University of Heidelberg),
Aline Schläpfer (Professor of Middle Eastern Studies at the University of
Base)l, Assaf David (Director of the research area "Israel in the
Middle East" at the Van Leer Jerusalem Institute), Sana Knaneh
(expert at the Israeli think tank MITVIM), Menna Abukhadra
(Visiting Professor at the Center for Israel Studies at the University of
Munich) and Marc Sievers (Director, American Jewish Committee
Abu Dhabi).

Anyone who would like to get a comprehensive overview of Jewish-Muslim
Muslim relations should not miss this episode!
should not miss this episode!

"Мекка и Иерусалим" - научный подкаст института еврейской
культуры и религии в Гейдельберге, который подддерживается Фондом
Фольксваген и Фондом "Память, ответственность и будущее". Мы
занимаемся прошлым, настоящим и будущим еврейско-мусульманских
отношений - конечно и в этом специальном русскоязычном выпуске.

Наши собеседники др. Яхиль Забан (преподаватель в Тель-Авивском
университете), др. Зейна Баракат (научная сотрудница, университет
Флэнсбург), Эснаф Бегич (бывший имам, преподаватель
исламской теологии в Оснабрюкском университете), Януш
Павельчик-Киссин (раввин еврейской общины Гейдельберга, учитель
религии и школьный уполномоченный еврейской общины
Баден), Арик Рудницкий (менеджер проекта программы
Конрада Аденауэра еврейско-арабского сотрудничества в
Тель-Авивском университетете), Мохаммад Даравше (директор по
планированию, равенству и совместному обществу образовательного
центра "Гиват Хавивива".), Йоханнес Циммерманн (преподаватель
исламоведения в Гейдельбергском университетете), Алин Шлепффер
(професссор исследований Ближнего Востока в Базельском
университетете), Ассаф Давид (директор отдела иссследований "Израиль
на Ближнем Востоке" в Иерусалимском институте Ван Лира), Сана
Кнане (эксперт в израильском аналитическом центре "Mitvim"),
Менна Абухадра (приглашенный профессор в центре изучения Израиля
при Мюнхенском университете) и Марк Сиверс (директор офиса
американского еврейского комитета в Абу-Даби).

Если вы интересуетесь углублённым обзором еврейско-мусульманских
отношений, не пропустите этот выпуск.

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"Mecca and Jerusalem" is a science podcast at the
University of Jewish Studies Heidelberg, which is supported by the
Volkswagen Foundation and the Foundation "Remembrance, Responsibility
and Future" Foundation. We deal with the
The past, present and future of Jewish-Muslim relations
Relations - of course also in this special Russian
Special episode. Our discussion partners
are: Dr. Yahil

Zaban (Lecturer, Tel Aviv University), Dr. Zeina Barakat
(Research Associate, University of Flensburg), Esnaf
Begic (former imam and lecturer in Islamic theology,
University of Osnabrück), Janosz Pawelczyk-Kissin (Rabbi of the
jewish community of Heidelberg/the Rhine-Neckar district,
Religious education teacher and school representative of the
Religious Community Baden), Arik Rudnitzky (Project Manager of the
Konrad Adenauer Program for Jewish-Arab Cooperation,
Tel Aviv University), Mohammad Darawshe (Director, Planning,
Equality & Shared Society, Givat Haviva), Johannes Zimmermann
(Lecturer in Islamic Studies at the University of Heidelberg),
Aline Schläpfer (Professor of Middle Eastern Studies at the University of
Basel), Assaf David (Director of the research area "Israel in the
Middle East" at the Van Leer Jerusalem Institute), Sana Knaneh
(expert at the Israeli think tank MITVIM), Menna Abukhadra
(Visiting Professor at the Center for Israel Studies at the University of
Munich) and Marc Sievers (Director, American Jewish Committee
Abu Dhabi).

Anyone who would like to get a comprehensive overview of Jewish-Muslim
Muslim relations should not miss this episode!
should not miss this episode!

In this episode, we look at the topic of Jewish and Muslim migration histories - because many Jewish or Muslim people in Germany have one thing in common: they have a so-called migration background, i.e. their parents, grandparents or perhaps even they themselves come from Turkey, Kurdistan, Syria, Ukraine, Russia or Israel
Turkey, from Kurdistan, from Syria - or even from Ukraine, Russia or Israel.


Different migration histories come together: Some came as so-called "guest workers", others perhaps as political refugees - even before the Syrian war or the Russian invasion of Ukraine. We asked ourselves how Germany actually dealt with ethnic and religious diversity before the Second World War
ethnic and religious diversity in Germany before the Second World War? Were Muslims represented in this country before the immigration of guest workers? And: What similarities or differences are there between Jewish and Muslim migration experiences?


Our discussion partners in this episode were: Michael Kashi, board member of the IRGW (Israelitische Religionsgemeinschaft Württemberg), Erkan Inan, co-founder of the Jewish-Muslim Stammtisch in Munich, Dr. Karen Körber, sociologist at the Hamburg Institute for the History of German Jews (most recently published: Lebenswirklichkeiten. Russian-speaking Jews in the German Immigration Society, V&R 2022 - with a contribution by Andreas Gotzmann) and Aladin El-Mafaalani, sociologist at the Institute for Migration Research and Intercultural Studies and author of
Intercultural Studies and author of books such as: "Das Integrationsparadox. Why successful integration leads to more conflict" and "The myth of education. The unjust society, its education system and its future".

So if you want to find out more about Jewish and Muslim migration history, you shouldn't miss this episode!